tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post2586368587992328732..comments2023-08-26T21:37:02.455+05:30Comments on Random Ramblings: Peer Pressure.Magically Boredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00689084060646607534noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-84199655615974048062008-02-20T21:21:00.000+05:302008-02-20T21:21:00.000+05:30I seem to have a very interesting blog! Ritimoto j...I seem to have a very interesting blog! Ritimoto jhogra lege jaye! :P<BR/><BR/>@ Indranil: No of course I don't mind.. Feel free to comment away! :P<BR/><BR/>@ Everyone in general: Calm down! (Bit rich coming from ME, considering I was smoking at the years a couple of nights back at Elendil's original comment!)<BR/><BR/>But yeah, everyone is allowed an occasional 'rush of blood to the head', along with their own opinions..<BR/>So as Elendil says, "Peace to all."Magically Boredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00689084060646607534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-25197976374897591752008-02-20T20:33:00.000+05:302008-02-20T20:33:00.000+05:30@elendil: sorry for that, but I worded my comment ...@elendil: sorry for that, but I worded my comment wrongly. I never meant it as a personal stab at you. Rather, a general 'you' for vaguely someone out there.<BR/><BR/>And yes, I do believe we've gone out of the topic of the post.<BR/><BR/>Sorry.Indranilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01178869242088474004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-33393192685804065672008-02-20T17:51:00.000+05:302008-02-20T17:51:00.000+05:30@Shreya: Right you are. I'd just like to point out...@Shreya: Right you are. I'd just like to point out though, that my views are not *that* cynical. As I've said before, my comments were a rush of blood to the head. I believe in fairy tale love as much as anyone else.<BR/><BR/>And I would very much appreciate it, if people who don't know me refrained from making comments like this - <BR/><BR/>'You'll probably dump your steady girlfriend till the day someone smashes your heart in.'<BR/><BR/>This comment was has long gone beyond the blog-post itself.<BR/><BR/>Peace to all.Elendilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04358056466348715555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-13652469413152398642008-02-20T17:43:00.000+05:302008-02-20T17:43:00.000+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.Elendilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04358056466348715555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-14973514558753378882008-02-19T23:48:00.000+05:302008-02-19T23:48:00.000+05:30Cool! Comment-fight!!@brinda: I hope you won't min...Cool! Comment-fight!!<BR/><BR/>@brinda: I hope you won't mind me addressing more than 1 person on a comment on someone else's blog. If you mind, well, sorry! Chicken roll due. :)<BR/><BR/>@shreya: deep breath!<BR/><BR/>@elendil: bro! Brinda's a girl. She's obviously gonna be talking about girls. More so because she comes from a girls school. This has nothing to do with feminism. She just commented on good friends she personally knows.<BR/>As for girls getting dumped or dumping guys, I'm sure I can use the phrase, "to each his own". You'll probably dump your steady girlfriend till the day someone smashes your heart in. I, for one, am lucky to find true love. (No, I ain't 19). I'm sure other guys and girls will have varying mileage. Your mileage may vary, or YMMV, as they say.<BR/><BR/><BR/>And coming from a smoker, I know we've got every right to beat our own selves to death. But smoking doesn't do that, does it? It harms people who don't smoke. And it's damningly hard to let go of. So, well, when you smoke, you ain't acting cool or staying free-willed, you're knowingly damaging every person you love.<BR/><BR/>And now, I mosey along...Indranilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01178869242088474004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-12367596883165139562008-02-19T22:20:00.000+05:302008-02-19T22:20:00.000+05:30@elendil-ya I sort of had to reply to your comment...@elendil-ya I sort of had to reply to your comments.Its sad how you have such a cynical view on life,I know I know life has a lot of shit to offer.But all that you said about girls with "steady" boyfriends getting dumped or dumping their partners,is utterly ridiculous in my opinion.Perhaps you tend to judge people by your actions in life?Or things that have happened to you?And please can we give up this tragic hero act that you seem to have taken up?Not everyone who has gone through a helluva crisis in their lives have taken to smoking or weed!I am speaking from personal experience,and the writer of the blog post is probably the best example to prove my point.And do you have any clue what peer pressure is like?It can tear you apart into two and merge all these blacks and whites everyone seems to be talking about.I'd much rather advice people to refrain from it than ask them to succumb to it all just because you woke up one fine morning and realized that life isnt a bed of roses.And perhaps if you take a less cynical view to everything going on for you, you'd be much happier(without the weed or smoke).Heh.storytellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00228253627269930414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-16842039411939662012008-02-18T21:20:00.000+05:302008-02-18T21:20:00.000+05:30@ Elendil: Apology taken. No hard feelings!@ Elendil: Apology taken. No hard feelings!Magically Boredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00689084060646607534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-34683381392508793912008-02-18T21:13:00.000+05:302008-02-18T21:13:00.000+05:30You're absolutely right of course. You have every ...You're absolutely right of course. You have every right to believe what you want. My comments were even more opinionated than your original post. Apologies.Elendilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04358056466348715555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-22878073406342933612008-02-18T20:34:00.000+05:302008-02-18T20:34:00.000+05:30man!!!!that had me scared, and it wasn't even dire...man!!!!that had me scared, and it wasn't even directed towards me.<BR/>boy can you be scary or what huh tuna!AbhijanBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11643675908037948290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-38408860435336711452008-02-18T16:23:00.000+05:302008-02-18T16:23:00.000+05:30@ Elendil: Firstly, I'm 19 and not 18.And I apolog...@ Elendil: Firstly, I'm 19 and not 18.<BR/>And I apologise if my post has 'offended' you, obviously it wasn't meant to. I was merely voicing an opinion which I felt needed to be ventilated. Just as you say I do not have the right to judge others, you do not have the right to judge me. I chose the example of the girl just because I saw her right then, at that moment, and she had never struck me as the type to smoke. I know guys who don't smoke too, and if I had suddenly seen them with a cigarette in their hands, I would have thought pretty much the same thing. So realise that I'm not attacking or generalising girls in any way, I just took that girl as an example.<BR/>And to answer your question, smoking has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with sluttishness. But they are, in some way, connected to falling prey to peer pressure. Just as some people start smoking just so they are accepted by their peers, some people too, sleep around and are promiscuous to be accepted, and thought 'cool'. <BR/>If I'm conservative, that's my own prerogative. All of us are not the same. You and I are not the same. So don't expect me to agree with you. People are free to do what they want. I don't 'judge' them, as you say, but I condone the weakness of character that makes some people succumb to peer pressure.<BR/>Incidentally, I have the same thoughts about guys being promiscuous as girls being promiscuous. Promiscuity isn't wrong- people can change partners, whatever. Nothing to do with me. But when they do it indiscriminately, without cause, without love, without self-respect- that's what gets to me.<BR/>Don't call me repressed, because I'm not. Everyone has different opinions, different ideals, different ways of thinking. Just because you didn't believe in smoking and drugs, and started with them, doesn't mean I should agree and say that I was wrong. Because I'm not wrong here. And you have NO right to call me a 'Victorian moralist'.<BR/>I have lost people to drinking and smoking too. And I didn't start with any of it. Yet you did, for 'release'.<BR/>There's a lot of difference between us. I don't condone anyone's action, who am I to, after all? But I wish people would wake up and realise that smoking out of your own free will, and smoking because your friends are smoking, and you don't want to be left out- have a Hell and Heaven difference.<BR/>Don't presume to teach me about Life, and how it's complicated. I know a lot about it, perhaps much more than you think.Magically Boredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00689084060646607534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-60542782042331452292008-02-17T22:28:00.000+05:302008-02-17T22:28:00.000+05:30well i do agree with that and have never believed ...well i do agree with that and have never believed otherwise.AbhijanBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11643675908037948290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-74192025383225555022008-02-17T22:24:00.000+05:302008-02-17T22:24:00.000+05:30Ok, I apologize for that. Rush of blood to the hea...Ok, I apologize for that. Rush of blood to the head. But. I understand that its peer pressure that she *intends* to attack, but the *tone* of the post is what got to me. The way its written makes people who don't stick to one partner all their life seem like Satan's little imps. I *assure* you, absolutely *ASSURE* you, that in less than 2 years, all you UG1s with *steady* boyfriends who you think you will *marry* are either going to dump you or you're going to dump them. Sorry to be horrible, but such is life. The sooner you wake up to it, the better.Elendilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04358056466348715555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-72137298392392991102008-02-17T22:12:00.000+05:302008-02-17T22:12:00.000+05:30whoa whoa whoa!, you're kindda echoing the same th...whoa whoa whoa!, you're kindda echoing the same things i tried tto tell her but you've gone way over the top with it. she wanted to concentrate at the end on people taking to in due to peer pressure; which is often true for many people if not all, but you've gone and given her a tongue lashing which she only fractionaly deserves but not the same way you have launched yourself at her.AbhijanBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11643675908037948290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-46564351716497126452008-02-17T22:11:00.000+05:302008-02-17T22:11:00.000+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.AbhijanBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11643675908037948290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-30025467885886487382008-02-17T22:04:00.000+05:302008-02-17T22:04:00.000+05:30.. And I completely agree with what Mandy and some..... And I completely agree with what Mandy and some of your seniors have said. When you're 18, you have all these 'principles' and your view of the world is black and white. Just you wait. In a few years life will fuck up all your beliefs and you'll realize just how bloody complicated things are. When the shit hits the fan, your 'principles' can crumble in the blink of an eye. Only the strongest, the very strongest can hold fast to the same principles they had as kids all their lives.<BR/><BR/>I had always been completely completely dead against smoking, drinking and drugs. People I love have died because of them, or are about to. Then, shockingly, for about 6 months of my life I was smoking weed about 3 times a week and getting piss drunk all the time. Because things in my personal got to such a point where I felt I'd try anything for a bit of masochistic release. Then I pretty much gave it all up, because things got better. The same goes for love and sex. Almost everyone in their first relationship wants to marry their boy/girlfriend and live happily ever after, but life is not a fairy tale. Just look around you 5 years later and see how many of the 'good girls' are still with their first boyfriend.Elendilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04358056466348715555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-38634304579066720042008-02-17T21:46:00.000+05:302008-02-17T21:46:00.000+05:30Ermm.. I have to say, this reads like a Victorian ...Ermm.. I have to say, this reads like a Victorian moralist's preachings on what is right and what is wrong. What gives you the right to judge other people's actions through the myopic lens of your own values? Firstly, people once old enough, have the right to do what they please. If it harms them, then they should have the maturity to realize it. You're not in school any more and the test of character that college is, is a vital part of growing up. When I first entered college, I was as shocked at the open display of so called vices. But then as I began to grapple with some of these problems myself, I began to realize there's much more to it that 'right' and 'wrong'. Its all about your own values.<BR/><BR/>What I am shocked at is that you would point out a girl smoking, and not a guy. You noticed that because society puts a taboo on women smoking. And this bit - 'Girls who swore they'd never smoke- they smoke now. Girls who said they didn't believe in multiple boyfriends- that they'd be with one guy for life- to change boyfriends as frequently as they brush their teeth, just because their friends are doing the same.' - is just unbelievable. What on earth does smoking have to do with sluttishnes?! That is an incredible generalization. What, only 'bad' girls who smoke can have many boyfriends? The whole thing reeks of a deep fear of being liberated. I say, let girls who want to change boyfriends do so. What's it to you? People are people. Why judge them with such ridiculously conservative ideals? <BR/><BR/>Girls smoking? What about boys smoking? All your life you've seen men walking down the road holding cigarettes and not noticed it. Look around you. Every other guy on the streets is fagging himself to death and it only hits you when you see a girl smoking?! Why attack female promiscuity? Why not male promiscuity? How about the fact that men who have many girlfriends are seen as cool 'ladies' men' and girls who do the same are called 'sluts'?<BR/><BR/>And what on earth is the connection between smoking and promiscuity? Let me point out, that bengalis, who amongst races smoke the *most* tend to be the most sexually repressed, and Americans who have dozens of boyfriends in their lifetimes and under your moral judgement would all be horrible sluts, smoke very little in comparison. Sure, smoking is bad. No doubt about it. But why mention promiscuity in the same breath? are you saying there are no good people in the USA?<BR/><BR/>I think the repression is getting to *you*. Free your mind. The world is too big a place and human actions have too many motivations to be classified and judged as 'good and bad'.<BR/><BR/>Right, er.. I just had a little rant there. Forgive me if for any harsh words, but that post of yours really caused a rush of blood to my head.Elendilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04358056466348715555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-83582309918327804112008-02-13T02:49:00.000+05:302008-02-13T02:49:00.000+05:30I was trying to remember why I used to smoke up, I...I was trying to remember why I used to smoke up, I did it because everybody was doing it and I wanted to know why. My principles are always open to experiment, this way I have no uninformed prejudices. It took me about two year to be repulsed by cannabis and alcohol too, to some extent and this is the sort of repulsion that will never go away. Whereas your brand of repulsion is fragile. Or would be if I were you but then I suppose you're far more sorted than I'll ever be.La Figlia Che Piangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18054189552538980599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-67681366034949822602008-02-11T11:38:00.000+05:302008-02-11T11:38:00.000+05:30@ Beyond The Realms Of The Rational Mind: Thank yo...@ Beyond The Realms Of The Rational Mind: Thank you! :) Glad to see SOMEONE backing me up here!<BR/><BR/>@ Rukmini: Probably, yeah, it is a problem nonetheless, which leads to bigger problems.Magically Boredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00689084060646607534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-58122113984949828542008-02-10T15:02:00.000+05:302008-02-10T15:02:00.000+05:30since we ARE on the subject of Peer Pressure: when...since we ARE on the subject of Peer Pressure: when you're in a group where every other member conforms to certain "ways of living", it takes helluva lot of courage and strength of character to reject those ways, and retain your individuality. and also, to be prepared to face the consequences. which is probably why most people like taking the easy way out. and this applies to other aspects of life as well. So don't let the occasional "peer-pressurised smoker" disturb you- that is the least of our problems...i think.rukminihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15067647254743558242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-64200558894035931162008-02-09T16:05:00.000+05:302008-02-09T16:05:00.000+05:30aah well...it IS rather sad to see people succumbi...aah well...it IS rather sad to see people succumbing to peer pressure.And please people,Tuna just used smoking as an Example....the post is NOT about condemning people who smoke!Reetihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180586137578509463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-52794232875230415642008-02-09T11:21:00.000+05:302008-02-09T11:21:00.000+05:30@ Doubletake, Doublethink: Possible. Bowing down t...@ Doubletake, Doublethink: Possible. Bowing down to peer pressure is just weakness at the end of the day. But in a way, it IS compromising on your principles-if you do stuff that you wouldn't have done ordinarily, just to fit in.Magically Boredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00689084060646607534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-38058534935939117042008-02-08T18:56:00.000+05:302008-02-08T18:56:00.000+05:30arre i got that all right, but i still think it's ...arre i got that all right, but i still think it's a very overrated issue. if you can't decide what you ought to do and who you want to hang out with, you'd better mess up, straighten up and say "we learn from our mistakes" or some such without acting like your life's ruined. i just thought the whole compromising principles thing a bit much =)Doubletake, Doublethink.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09600185883998918369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-26968379170966187242008-02-08T09:31:00.000+05:302008-02-08T09:31:00.000+05:30@ Joe BR: The post is on peer pressure, and succum...@ Joe BR: The post is on peer pressure, and succumbing to it! Pay attention!<BR/><BR/>@ Speedpost: Yes, it's a matter of opinion- everyone has their own, I have my own too. And my post is not about smoking (I took it merely as an example), I am talking about how people can fall victims to peer pressure and lose their individuality.<BR/><BR/>@ Doubletake, Doublethink: Uff, I would have thought YOU of all people would have got what I meant. Focus on the larger issue here- peer pressure. I don't have a problem with people smoking- it's their own thing, their own choice.Magically Boredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00689084060646607534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-83250857518149015852008-02-08T02:12:00.000+05:302008-02-08T02:12:00.000+05:30"I don't have a problem with smoking as such- peop..."I don't have a problem with smoking as such- people are free to screw up their bodies if they wish"<BR/><BR/>that should have been your post.<BR/><BR/>it isn't really compromising on principles or anything, i think. just that people change. and most of them know what they're getting into, so why bother? you're breathing as many fumes through the rattly exhaust of a minibus (which, incidentally, happens to me everyday). doesn't every human being have some sort of addiction? if smoking happens to be half the world's, what of it? the other half may be addicted to things far more or less potent.<BR/><BR/>let it be =)Doubletake, Doublethink.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09600185883998918369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9144251135775159715.post-18471913283372487612008-02-07T23:52:00.000+05:302008-02-07T23:52:00.000+05:30Aha touching quite a many nerve aren't we?But its ...Aha touching quite a many nerve aren't we?<BR/><BR/>But its a matter of opinion at the end of the day. I don't want punctured lungs so I don't.<BR/>But then again that is human nature.<BR/>I like the smell of petrol and homeopathic medicine today. <BR/>And right now,someone somewhere is falling in love with nicotine. Judging, while inevitable, spoils the process of observation.<BR/>Which is what we are here for ultimately.speedposthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04172433719293545120noreply@blogger.com